‘Impossible’ MotoGP doesn’t have ‘democratic’ combined weight

While Moto2 and Moto3 calculates minimum weight as a combined rider and bike measurement, MotoGP continues to specify a machine only limit.
MotoGP rider line up, Qatar MotoGP 3 March
MotoGP rider line up, Qatar MotoGP 3 March

The issue of combined weight in MotoGP is a long-running debate, with physically larger riders feeling they are unfairly penalised.

Past pleas by the likes of Scott Redding (78kg/185cm) and Danilo Petrucci (80kg/181cm) fell on deaf ears, with the counter-argument being that - while a combined weight is appropriate in classes with less power - the advantages and disadvantages are more balanced on a 300hp MotoGP machine.

Luca Marini, who at 69kg/184cm is one of the bigger riders on the present MotoGP grid, doesn’t agree. But it’s not pure acceleration where he feels most penalised, but the amount of tyre ‘stress’ and ‘energy’ needed to produce that acceleration.

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The Italian, who previously raced under the combined 217kg rider and bike limit in Moto2, said:

“There is a minimum [combined] weight in Moto2 and I was over the limit, but [only] like 4kg. And it's OK if between me and other rider there is 4kg.

“It's more difficult in MotoGP. I’m trying to be more strict with my training and with my diet, because there is no [combined] minimum weight so there are also differences like 10kg between me and another Ducati rider.

“And this, even if we have a lot of power, changes a lot the behaviour of the bike and also how you stress the tyres.

“Because in a lot of tracks, we feel and we analyse that I stress more the tyres because with more kilos you need to put more energy in the tyre to accelerate in the same way.

“It's not something that you lose acceleration; the acceleration, also in the data, is the same. But the energy that you put into the tyre is more. So you need to be very careful with the rear tyre, especially because you don't want to use it so much.

"And at the beginning of the season I remember that many races I finished the rear tyre [grip] and it's something that we worked a lot on and now we are really competitive and I'm one of the guys that uses less the rear tyre.

“This is a very good, like in Phillip Island I was managing very well.”

Luca Marini, Marco Bezzecchi, Italian MotoGP, 28 May
Luca Marini, Marco Bezzecchi, Italian MotoGP, 28 May

'Impossible' that they didn't bring a combined weight into MotoGP

Nonetheless, the VR46 Ducati rider is adamant MotoGP needs to join the smaller grand prix classes in introducing a combined weight.

“It’s something that is impossible that they didn't bring to MotoGP before. I don't know why. It’s something really democratic, I think,” Marini said. “Why does a heavy rider need to be penalised for something that is just his nature? It’s something with no sense in my opinion.”

When Dani Pedrosa (51kg/160cm) was racing, the argument against a minimum weight was that the Spaniard already suffered in terms of being unable to move his (limited) body weight around and loading his bike with ballast would make it even harder for him to handle.

But Pedrosa was an extreme example and with Marini’s team-mate Marco Bezzecchi (61kg) listed as lightest on this year’s grid, the smaller riders would only need minimal ballast to meet a combined weight or - Marini suggests - be able to bulk up on muscle.

“I think that it will be better for everybody to have a minimum weight, also for the other [smaller] riders because maybe they can train more. They can put more weight, they can build more muscle,” Marini said.

“So also the smallest rider can have an advantage [from a combined weight] in my opinion.”

But changes to the technical rules require unanimous agreement from the manufacturers, at least some of whom don’t like the idea of running their machines with different weights, due to the need for ballast to reach the combined weight with lighter riders.

“The manufacturers don’t want to put [ballast]. They want to keep going like [now] and [not think about] if they have a small rider in which place they need to put the [ballast] because maybe this can affect the behaviour of the bike.

“I think [a combined weight] is something that needs to come from IRTA, from Dorna, not from the manufacturers.”

Augusto Fernandez , Ai Ogura, Moto2, British MotoGP 6 August
Augusto Fernandez , Ai Ogura, Moto2, British MotoGP 6 August

Fernandez: In Moto2, sometimes my dinners were not enough!

Does a combined weight actually work?

Although larger riders still have to count every calorie in Moto2, the last two world champions - Remy Gardner (72kg/178cm) and Augusto Fernandez (68kg/181cm) - have been bigger than almost all of the MotoGP grid.

But in a sign that the combined weight 'balance' is about right, much lighter riders have also remained competitive in the intermediate class, with Raul Fernandez (63kg/177cm) and then Ai Ogura (56kg/168cm) taking the Moto2 title fight to the final round.

However, in MotoGP Gardner then often spoke of straight-line performance issues during his single season on an RC16 and Fernandez, taking his Tech3 place as the only rookie joining the MotoGP grid in 2023, knows his weight is likely to rise as he builds the required muscle.

“Yeah, I will eat a little bit more than in Moto2. Not a lot. I don’t want to put much more weight on because I'm quite tall, but just to not be hungry, because in Moto2 sometimes my dinners were not enough!” he revealed.

“So now just have a healthy diet and be strong enough for the MotoGP bike, because I will need to be stronger.

“I’ll go to the Red Bull Athlete Performance Center in Austria in mid-January to check everything.”

  • Moto3 combined minimum weight (motorcycle + rider) = 152 kg
  • Moto2 combined minimum weight (motorcycle + rider) = 217 kg
  • MotoGP minimum weight (motorcycle) = 157kg

The 2022 MotoGP rider weight/height statistics as provided by MotoGP.com can be seen below:

Remy Gardner 72kg/178cm

Alex Rins 72kg/176cm

Takaaki Nakagami 70kg/175cm

Luca Marini 69kg/184cm

Joan Mir 69kg / 181cm

Fabio di Giannantonio 68kg/175cm

Andrea Dovizioso 68kg/165cm

Francesco Bagnaia 67kg/176cm

Johann Zarco 67kg/171cm

Aleix Espargaro 66kg/180cm

Fabio Quartararo 66kg/177cm

Cal Crutchlow 66kg/170cm

Alex Marquez 65kg/179cm

Marc Marquez 65kg/169cm

Franco Morbidelli 64kg/176cm

Jack Miller 64kg/173cm

Maverick Vinales 64kg/171cm

Miguel Oliveira 64kg/170cm

Enea Bastianini 64kg/168cm

Raul Fernandez 63kg/177cm

Darryn Binder 63kg/175cm

Pol Espargaro 63kg/171cm

Brad Binder 63kg/170cm

Jorge Martin 62kg/168cm

Marco Bezzecchi 61kg /174cm

Average 63.4kg

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